{"id":12155,"date":"2020-09-11T07:50:12","date_gmt":"2020-09-11T07:50:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/africa\/?p=12155"},"modified":"2021-12-01T12:42:14","modified_gmt":"2021-12-01T12:42:14","slug":"an-interview-with-the-directors-of-gutted-a-documentary-on-the-harmful-impacts-of-industrial-fishing-on-cape-towns-communities","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/africa\/en\/blogs\/12155\/an-interview-with-the-directors-of-gutted-a-documentary-on-the-harmful-impacts-of-industrial-fishing-on-cape-towns-communities\/","title":{"rendered":"An interview with the directors of GUTTED: A documentary on the harmful impacts of industrial fishing on Cape Town\u2019s communities"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons aligncenter is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-cta\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link\" href=\"https:\/\/act.greenpeace.org\/page\/41233\/petition\/1\">TELL THE United Nations TO PROTECT OUR OCEANS<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/m\/signin?actionUrl=%2F_%2Fbookmark%2Fp%2Ffbadc7216e4d&amp;operation=register&amp;redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fmedium.com%2F%40Greenpeace%2Fan-interview-with-the-directors-of-gutted-a-documentary-on-the-harmful-impacts-of-industrial-fbadc7216e4d&amp;source=post_actions_header--------------------------bookmark_header-\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n<p>Harmful industrial fishing companies continue to destroy and deplete South Africa\u2019s marine resources while fishing communities like the one in Kalk Bay, Cape Town are battling for fishing permits that will protect their livelihoods.<\/p>\n\n<p>Greenpeace Africa\u2019s documentary&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/mELLV8wBOK8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">GUTTED: THE FIGHT OF KALK BAY FISHERS<\/a>&nbsp;focuses on stories from communities on the frontlines. The short film recently won the best documentary at the Kaduna Film Festival in Nigeria and is selected for&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.jozifilmfestival.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Jozi Film Fest in Johannesburg<\/a>. It explores how laws favouring the industrialisation of fishing in South Africa have not only changed the socioeconomic situation of these communities but also the once vibrant and community-centric culture.<\/p>\n\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.embedly.com\/widgets\/media.html?src=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fembed%2FmELLV8wBOK8%3Ffeature%3Doembed&amp;display_name=YouTube&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DmELLV8wBOK8&amp;image=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FmELLV8wBOK8%2Fhqdefault.jpg&amp;key=a19fcc184b9711e1b4764040d3dc5c07&amp;type=text%2Fhtml&amp;schema=youtube\" allowfullscreen=\"\" height=\"480\" width=\"854\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n<p>We sat down with\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/angeloclouw\" target=\"_blank\">Angelo Louw<\/a>\u00a0(AL), Greenpeace Africa\u2019s Digital Mobilisation Officer and Plastics Lead, and filmmaker<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/malcolmrainersofficial\" target=\"_blank\">\u00a0Malcolm Rainers<\/a> (MR) to talk about their process and passion to make sure stories and voices like these are centered in the fight for environmental justice.<\/p>\n\n<p><strong>How did you two meet and how did the idea behind the film come about?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n<p><strong>AL:&nbsp;<\/strong>It\u2019s actually a funny story, I had spent months following the issue.<\/p>\n\n<p>One day, while pleading to have these stories told to a production company (because we really didn\u2019t have a budget for this) the owner house suggested I speak to Malcolm Rainers because they thought his work was amazing. So I looked up Malcolm on Facebook, slid into his DMs, and (thank God!) he agreed to the project and we started shooting a week later.<\/p>\n\n<p><strong>MR:<\/strong>&nbsp;I remember getting the call from Angelo whilst driving home one evening. I wouldn\u2019t usually gravitate toward environmental justice-based projects, nor do I have a specific connection to Kalk Bay or the fishing community. But when I heard the stories of the injustices the community was facing, it was enough for me to get on board the project.<\/p>\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large  caption-style-blue-overlay caption-alignment-center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"572\" src=\"https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/static\/planet4-africa-stateless\/2020\/09\/557cd982-veteran-fisher-moegamat-allie-fortunate-who-comes-from-a-long-line-of-fishers-in-kalk-bay-cape-town-1024x572.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12156\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/static\/planet4-africa-stateless\/2020\/09\/557cd982-veteran-fisher-moegamat-allie-fortunate-who-comes-from-a-long-line-of-fishers-in-kalk-bay-cape-town-1024x572.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/static\/planet4-africa-stateless\/2020\/09\/557cd982-veteran-fisher-moegamat-allie-fortunate-who-comes-from-a-long-line-of-fishers-in-kalk-bay-cape-town-300x168.png 300w, https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/static\/planet4-africa-stateless\/2020\/09\/557cd982-veteran-fisher-moegamat-allie-fortunate-who-comes-from-a-long-line-of-fishers-in-kalk-bay-cape-town-768x429.png 768w, https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/static\/planet4-africa-stateless\/2020\/09\/557cd982-veteran-fisher-moegamat-allie-fortunate-who-comes-from-a-long-line-of-fishers-in-kalk-bay-cape-town-510x285.png 510w, https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/static\/planet4-africa-stateless\/2020\/09\/557cd982-veteran-fisher-moegamat-allie-fortunate-who-comes-from-a-long-line-of-fishers-in-kalk-bay-cape-town.png 1440w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Veteran fisher Moegamat Allie Fortunate, who comes from a long line of fishers in Kalk Bay, Cape Town<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n<p><strong>Can you tell us a bit about the process? How did you connect with the community?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n<p><strong>MR:&nbsp;<\/strong>GUTTED, in a way, ended up telling its own story. Kalk Bay spoke in a way a human never could. The more time you spend in Kalk Bay, the more you feel its history and the more its culture wraps its arms around you.<\/p>\n\n<p><strong>AL:<\/strong>&nbsp;Our volunteers are from the community. This made it a lot easier for us to reach and connect to the community and even enter their homes. The volunteers knew exactly who to speak to and who would speak to us.<\/p>\n\n<p>It was also very important that the experts we interviewed were from the community.<\/p>\n\n<p>I understood something about this community that many filmmakers would not necessarily see. Like many Kalk Bay residents we interviewed, I am a Coloured South African. I remember saying to Malcolm when we started I wanted him to capture the bursts of colour throughout the community. Despite facing many hardships, we remain vibrant and tenacious.<\/p>\n\n<p><strong>What surprised you the most while making this film?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n<p><strong>MR:&nbsp;<\/strong>How much history is laid out there in that one square kilometre. On one of my visits to Kalk Bay, I found a board showing the history of the fishers. All the things that the community spoke about were documented right there in pictures: the hundreds of fish that they\u2019d catch daily, how many fishers there used to be.<\/p>\n\n<p><strong>AL:<\/strong>&nbsp;For me, it was the realisation that South Africa\u2019s democracy did not necessarily improve the lives of all South Africans, particularly people of colour, as one would have expected. Our democratic regime actually pushed this community further into the periphery. People are always surprised by the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.news24.com\/news24\/southafrica\/local\/peoples-post\/fishing-communities-becoming-more-poor-20181119\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">fast deterioration of the Cape Flats<\/a>. But, when you turn the age-old traditions of a community into a crime by making it illegal to fish without licenses, you introduce all of these other criminal elements into society.<\/p>\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large  caption-style-blue-overlay caption-alignment-center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"578\" src=\"https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/static\/planet4-africa-stateless\/2020\/09\/486c4394-fish-processor-ferial-davids-at-the-kalk-bay-harbour-cleaning-fish-for-a-member-of-the-community-1024x578.png\" alt=\"Image for post\" class=\"wp-image-12158\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/static\/planet4-africa-stateless\/2020\/09\/486c4394-fish-processor-ferial-davids-at-the-kalk-bay-harbour-cleaning-fish-for-a-member-of-the-community-1024x578.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/static\/planet4-africa-stateless\/2020\/09\/486c4394-fish-processor-ferial-davids-at-the-kalk-bay-harbour-cleaning-fish-for-a-member-of-the-community-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/static\/planet4-africa-stateless\/2020\/09\/486c4394-fish-processor-ferial-davids-at-the-kalk-bay-harbour-cleaning-fish-for-a-member-of-the-community-768x433.png 768w, https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/static\/planet4-africa-stateless\/2020\/09\/486c4394-fish-processor-ferial-davids-at-the-kalk-bay-harbour-cleaning-fish-for-a-member-of-the-community-510x288.png 510w, https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/static\/planet4-africa-stateless\/2020\/09\/486c4394-fish-processor-ferial-davids-at-the-kalk-bay-harbour-cleaning-fish-for-a-member-of-the-community.png 1438w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Fish processor Ferial Davids at the Kalk Bay harbour, cleaning fish for a member of the community<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n<p><strong>What would you say was the most challenging part?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n<p><strong>MR:<\/strong>&nbsp;Perhaps the most challenging part was me constantly wondering if my artistic choices would do the story justice. The more I worked on it, the more I realised how big the story was.<\/p>\n\n<p><strong>AL:&nbsp;<\/strong>Honestly, Malcolm made producing this documentary a breeze for me. The hardest part was finding him!<\/p>\n\n<p><strong>Do you have any updates, messages from the community? (How has COVID-19 affected their lives?)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n<p><strong>AL:<\/strong>&nbsp;It\u2019s ironic that when the pandemic hit South Africa this&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bizcommunity.com\/Article\/196\/520\/206624.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">community was suddenly prioritised as essential<\/a>&nbsp;to the country\u2019s food security. Prior to COVID-19 the community had been forced into the margins of society, struggling to gain fishing licenses. It\u2019s clear that all that is really standing in the way of local fishers gaining their birthright is the will of the South African government.<\/p>\n\n<p>Since its release, the documentary has sparked a conversation internationally. It\u2019s been selected for film festivals around the world from New York to Nigeria, and&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/tv\/B_mBvAhjbaw\/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">VICE News<\/a>&nbsp;picked up the story and commissioned its own documentary. This is great! The more people who become aware of the situation, the more pressure we can put on the South African government to rectify the situation. Just a few weeks ago, the minister in charge of fisheries, Barbara Creecy,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bizcommunity.com\/Article\/196\/520\/206624.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">announced<\/a>&nbsp;that they were hoping to speed up the process in the coming months.<\/p>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons aligncenter is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-cta\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link\" href=\"https:\/\/act.greenpeace.org\/page\/41233\/petition\/1\">TELL THE United Nations TO PROTECT OUR OCEANS<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<p><strong>For those reading this interview, what message would you like to pass on?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n<p><strong>AL:&nbsp;<\/strong>We don\u2019t always feel like our stories are worth telling, we don\u2019t think that they will inspire any kind of change, but if we wait for someone else to change the world then who is going to do it?<\/p>\n\n<p><strong>MR:&nbsp;<\/strong>I agree. You can never tell the impact your efforts are going to have unless you try. We had no idea how far this story would travel when we started filming.<\/p>\n\n<p>When we work together we can change the world. Watch and share\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/mELLV8wBOK8\" target=\"_blank\">GUTTED<\/a>\u00a0and sign the\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/international\/act\/protect-the-oceans\/\" target=\"_blank\">petition to protect the oceans.<\/a><\/p>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image  caption-style-blue-overlay caption-alignment-center\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"353\" src=\"https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/static\/planet4-africa-stateless\/2020\/09\/9255a470-angelo-louw-and-malcolm-rainers-at-the-international-1-minute-film-festival-in-cape-town-1024x353.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12170\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/static\/planet4-africa-stateless\/2020\/09\/9255a470-angelo-louw-and-malcolm-rainers-at-the-international-1-minute-film-festival-in-cape-town-1024x353.png 1024w, 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target=\"_blank\">Facebook<\/a>,\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/malcolm_rainers\/\" target=\"_blank\">Instagram<\/a>\u00a0or\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UC5JC3u5JVs2r4TuhT-qRsdA\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube<\/a>. <\/em><\/p>\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><em>Angelo Louw on\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/angeloclouw\" target=\"_blank\">Twitter<\/a>,\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/angeloclouw\/\" target=\"_blank\">Instagram<\/a>\u00a0or\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/angeloclouw\/\" target=\"_blank\">LinkedIn<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n\t\t\t<section\n\t\t\tclass=\"boxout post-3981 \"\n\t\t\t\n\t\t>\n\t\t\t<a\n\t\t\t\tdata-ga-category=\"Take Action 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