{"id":68264,"date":"2025-01-29T07:55:00","date_gmt":"2025-01-28T18:55:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/aotearoa\/?p=68264"},"modified":"2025-03-10T08:21:25","modified_gmt":"2025-03-09T19:21:25","slug":"podcast-have-you-felt-lonely-or-hopeless-try-urban-communities","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/aotearoa\/podcast\/podcast-have-you-felt-lonely-or-hopeless-try-urban-communities\/","title":{"rendered":"PODCAST: Have you felt lonely or hopeless? Try urban communities"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Embed Player\" width=\"100%\" height=\"188px\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.acast.com\/643817ee45431f0011a08b98\/6798aa89673aa382e128ba5c\" scrolling=\"no\" frameBorder=\"0\" style=\"border:none;overflow:hidden;\"><\/iframe>\n\n<p>Imagine the feeling of being disconnected, even when you are surrounded by others.<br><br>Loneliness has become a serious issue in our society, and it has emerged as a&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/global-development\/2023\/nov\/16\/who-declares-loneliness-a-global-public-health-concern\">significant global public health concern<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n<p>We talked about this with&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/souamandacosta\/\">Amanda Costa<\/a>, climate activist and Director of&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.viradasustentavel.org.br\/instituto-perifa-sustentavel\">Perifa Sustent\u00e1vel<\/a>, in the new episode of SystemShift, a podcast by Greenpeace International that explores how we can move from a world that serves the economy to an economy that works for people and the planet.<\/p>\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Are Urban Communities a Remedy for Loneliness? - SystemShift Podcast S3: Episode 2\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/BReHJS7oZg0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-cities-enable-the-problem-also-the-solutions\">Cities enable the problem, also the solutions<\/h2>\n\n<p>Our crowded but isolating cities have become a clear manifestation of a system that prioritises profit, consumption, and individualism. Add polarisation, constant bad news, increasing conflict, and climate anxiety, it\u2019s easy to feel hopeless.<br><br>\u201cDespite living right next to one another and seemingly being in a community, people still feel a sense of isolation and hopelessness,\u201d said Yewande Omotoso, the podcast co-host.<br><br>If&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.undp.org\/blog\/five-years-taking-stock-new-urban-agenda\">60% of humanity will live in cities by 2030<\/a>, this problem is nothing but growing, right? However, cities have also been the birthplace of powerful social movements throughout history. From community gardens or shared public spaces, to thousands of women demanding equality in the city centres and neighbours in peripheries resisting extreme weather events.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>They all start with people coming together, breaking down isolation and creating a sense of purpose, while driving real change in the making.<\/p>\n\n<p>That is precisely why collective work and community-driven solutions often work: because, unlike top-down approaches, they actively centre, advocate and involve people\u2019s needs, perspective, and active work.<\/p>\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-on-the-periphery-of-cities-at-the-centre-of-collective-action\">On the periphery of cities. At the centre of collective action<\/h2>\n\n<p>In the podcast, Amanda also explains how urban communities are linked with climate action, and why joining them with people you share some values and a common purpose can bring hope.<br><br>People come together as a form to resist social inequalities and climate hazards.&nbsp; That\u2019s the case of informal settlements, usually on the periphery of cities \u2013 such as the Favelas in Brazil, where&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www1.folha.uol.com.br\/cotidiano\/2024\/11\/jovens-negros-sao-populacao-predominante-nas-favelas-mostra-censo.shtml\">73% of the population is black<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n<p>The inhabitants of favelas defend their basic right to stay and thrive by using their collective power. As a result, they develop an invaluable sense of belonging and create strong solidarity networks that allow them to share knowledge, resources, and mutual support. It\u2019s not romanticising inequality, but acknowledging the lived experience of millions of people who transform their territories together.<\/p>\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-what-s-my-role-as-an-individual-what-can-i-do\">What\u2019s my role as an individual? What can I do?<\/h2>\n\n<p>These are some concrete steps to advocate for climate and social justice while bringing hope that you can take:<\/p>\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Listen or watch the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/international\/about\/system-shift\/\">new episode of the SystemShift podcast<\/a>&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Check out your local community or do a <a href=\"https:\/\/community.greenpeace.org.nz\">quick search<\/a> online for social or environmental groups<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Attend a community event or initiative in your area<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Consider volunteering for a cause you care about in a local group or organisation.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.greenpeace.org\/aotearoa\/act\/greenpeace-volunteer-register\/\">It could be Greenpeace<\/a>&nbsp;or any other you like!<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Set up or join a protest or other types of civic activities in your city or town<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Maybe you can\u2019t or don\u2019t feel comfortable doing any of this. In that case, try doing your own community-building activity, at your own pace.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p>Loneliness and hopelessness are tough, but you are not alone in feeling this way. By joining local initiatives and working together, we can create stronger communities\u2014and bring #SystemShift too.<\/p>\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-transcript\">Transcript<\/h2>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-style-default has-beige-100-background-color has-background is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-af10a197 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"border-radius:18px;padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40)\">\n<p>SystemShift podcast looks for answers and stories of justice, solutions, and alternatives, collaboratively showing how other ways are possible, through a decolonising, intersectional and hopeful point of view. Season three of this series will explore how we move from a world that serves the economy to an economy that works for people and the planet.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Across eight weekly episodes, co-hosts former politician Carl Schlyter, environmental justice technologist Jocelyn Longdon, and novelist Yewande Omotoso explore topics including taxes, mental health, and A.I.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Listen on&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLClXnL5aHwxUwsQiIotxZ1V8cbrf-qwTE\">YouTube<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/gb\/podcast\/systemshift\/id1683278976\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/systemshift\">Soundcloud<\/a>, or wherever you get your podcasts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Below is a transcript from this episode. It has not been fully edited for grammar, punctuation or spelling.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n<p>Yewande Omotoso (00:00:02)<\/p>\n\n<p>Welcome to SystemShift, a podcast from Greenpeace which explores how we can move from a world that serves the economy, to an economy that serves people and the planet. The theme of this series is change, and each episode we speak to guests from across the world to hear how they\u2019re changing the planet for the better.<\/p>\n\n<p>I\u2019m Yewande Omotoso. I\u2019m a novelist and a storyteller at Greenpeace.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Joycelyn London (00:00:28)<\/p>\n\n<p>And I\u2019m Joycelyn London, an environmental justice technologist, writer and educator, working at the intersection of environmental justice and nature technology. For this episode we\u2019re asking the question:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>\u201cAre urban communities a remedy for loneliness?\u201d.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>We\u2019ll be looking at how urban communities become solidarity and resistance networks, what those networks are and mean in practice, and how they can tackle a loss of hope during this crisis.<\/p>\n\n<p>We put a poll on our Instagram page, where we asked people if they felt a sense of community where they lived, and responses were surprisingly pretty balanced, with 37% of people saying yes, 35% saying no, and 28% not being quite sure.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>We also asked how do you feel after participating in a protest or a collective initiative, and here\u2019s what some of you had to say.<\/p>\n\n<p><em>\u201cThat I am not alone in my beliefs.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n<p><em>\u201cEmpowered and inspired.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n<p><em>\u201cI feel united.\u201d \u201cConnected with love.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n<p><em>\u201cHopeful \u2013 things can get better\u201d&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n<p>Yewande Omotoso (00:01:54)<\/p>\n\n<p>It\u2019s interesting, Joycelyn, the results of that poll we put up there\u2019s something quite profound about looking at loneliness as a symptom of something deeper in society, and there is, despite the balanced poll there is a lot of research and articles that are talking about this kind of loneliness epidemic, where people, despite living right next to one another and seemingly being in a community, still feel a sense of isolation and hopelessness. And so I\u2019m really curious to see the ways in which forming community around tackling the climate crisis starts to address that epidemic. Can it?<\/p>\n\n<p>I also feel like, okay, is that wishful thinking, is it convenient? We hope it can, or is it deeper than that. So I\u2019m really curious to delve into that with our guest.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>{Music}<\/p>\n\n<p>Joycelyn London (00:02:49)<\/p>\n\n<p>Yes, in this episode we\u2019re going to be joined by Amanda Costa. A climate activist, young UN ambassador, Amanda runs Perifa Sustent\u00e1vel (Sustainable Periphery), an Institute that mobilises young people in favour of a real and fair sustainable development agenda for Brazil based on racial and environmental justice.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Yewande Omotoso (00:03:10)<\/p>\n\n<p>Welcome to the podcast Amanda, it\u2019s wonderful to have you here and be talking to you.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Amanda Costa (00:03:15)<\/p>\n\n<p>Thank you so much for this invitation, I am excited and I think the conversation will be amazing.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Yewande Omotoso (00:03:20)<\/p>\n\n<p>I\u2019m very aware that you are multilingual. I have a few other languages I speak but Portuguese is not one of them, and I wanted to invite you to, Joycelyn if you agree, maybe we could have a lesson from Amanda?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Joycelyn London (00:03:32)<\/p>\n\n<p>I really want to learn Portuguese, so any like even Earth related environmental related phrases would be amazing.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Amanda Costa (00:03:41)<\/p>\n\n<p>Yeah of course I will say a small sentence in Portuguese and then I want you girls to repeat after me. \u201cEste podcast est\u00e1 sendo gravado por tr\u00eas incr\u00edveis mulheres negras\u201d. I just said that \u201cthis podcast is being recorded by three incredible beautiful black women.\u201d This could be a little bit hard so just let\u2019s begin saying \u201cbeautiful black women\u201d&nbsp; \u2014 that is \u201clindas mulheres negras\u201d.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Joycelyn London, Yewande Omotoso (00:04:13)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>\u201clindas mulheres negras<\/p>\n\n<p>Amanda Costa (00:04:17)<\/p>\n\n<p>You girls rock, amazing, oh my gosh. please come to Brazil please, Brazil needs you.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Joycelyn London (00:04:23)<\/p>\n\n<p>I want to, I\u2019ll be there, I\u2019ll be coming to visit you.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Yewande Omotoso (00:04:27)<\/p>\n\n<p>It is really truly wonderful to have you here. I need to say I wanted to learn more about you and there\u2019s a TED Talk that you gave that I found really moving. But maybe that\u2019s a good entry, I guess, into our conversation today. A lot of your work is about peripheries and so maybe a good start is just to understand from you what that means, peripheries, and why is that a focus of yours.<\/p>\n\n<p>Amanda Costa (00:04:52)<\/p>\n\n<p>I am the founder of Instituto Perifa Sustent\u00e1vel, Perifa Sustent\u00e1vel means sustainable outskirts, sustainable slum. Here in Brazil we have favelas and a lot of people see favelas as the crime space, a very dangerous space, a poor space. But it isn\u2019t just about this. Favelas are also a place of innovation, creativity, a place of power. So in 2017 climate activism arrived in my life. I was in the University, I took International Relations and I applied for a scholarship, and I was chosen to go to travel to Bonn in Germany and to be part of a Climate Camp. It was a small delegation in the world YMCA that selects young leaders from all over the world to represent their countries in the United Nations conference. And I was like, oh my God, this is my dream as an International Relations student.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>And when I was there I start(ed) to feel uncomfortable because I saw a lot of white men from European countries, talking about how the climate crisis will impact my community, black communities, Indigenous communities, Latin American communities, African communities. And I was thinking with myself, I have the empirical knowledge, I am facing the climate crisis. So as soon as I came back to Brazil I decided that I will be a climate voice in my country. And in the beginning it was really challenging, because my people, like black people in Brazil, at this time, they didn\u2019t want to hear about climate. They were saying things like \u201cAmanda, really, are you going to speak about climate?\u201d. We are dying because of the poverty, we are dying because of the police, and you\u2019re talking about climate. And I was like, oh my God, how could I make a bridge to show that to talk about climate it\u2019s to talk about life, it\u2019s to talk about our life.<\/p>\n\n<p>So I think this is the beginning of my activism and I decided, it is possible to be both in the community level and in the international space. Because in this United Nations conference they\u2019re talking about our lives, and we need to be part of this discussion.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Joycelyn London (00:07:30)<\/p>\n\n<p>Amanda, so beautiful. I just really love the passion that you have and also the way that you describe \u2026you know, a lot of these experiences that especially people of colour in this space<\/p>\n\n<p>have, in trying to balance representing your community and also making change on an international level, whilst facing systems that are partly the reason that your community in the first place is experiencing the disproportionate effects of the climate crisis. I\u2019m really interested in how you received this feedback from the community and you started needing to make this bridge.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Amanda Costa (00:08:06)<\/p>\n\n<p>In the second year, 2018, I started to be part of \u201cEngagamundo\u201d&nbsp; \u2013 Engagamundo means \u201cengaging the world\u201d. It\u2019s a Brazilian organisation that is empowering young people to be part of the decision making process, and also to lead us to lead our community. So I engaged with \u201cEngagamundo\u201d in 2018, and at the end of this year I travelled to Katowice in Poland to participate in COP 24.<\/p>\n\n<p>We were in a delegation of 11 people and I was so inspired by my friends, like \u201cwe can make the change, let\u2019s do it, we rock\u201d. So as soon as I came back to my country I remembered that I was like, I want to make change happen, and I know that I need to start in my house. So, I said to my parents, come to my bedroom, and I said please, sit on the bed, I need to talk with you. And&nbsp; I said \u201cfirst of all we need to change, we are part of the solution. Do you know that red meat is part of the climate crisis, so we need to change the way that we eat, we need to protect the Earth. Second, we need to use public transport, we need to be more sustainable. And third, who are the people that you voted for in the last elections? We need to understand what they are doing and we need to be part of these kinds of conversations. We need to influence them. And you can imagine my parents, they were looking at me like, \u201cwhat is she talking about\u201d? And when I finished my mother said \u201care you done\u201d? And I was like \u201cI am\u201d, and my mother. she looked at me and she said, girl \u2013 \u201cse liga, garota!\u201d \u2013 it\u2019s like a Brazilian (way) to say&nbsp; \u2013 \u201cgirl shut up\u201d, when I was your age I couldn\u2019t eat meat because my mother, she couldn\u2019t afford it.. I needed to suffer abuse because I couldn\u2019t have a car and a lot of men, they weren\u2019t nice on public transport. And now that I have a car you\u2019re saying that I cannot use my car! Girl shut up\u201d.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>And I was, \u201cwhat is going on\u201d.? So I understood that if I want to share the climate ambition and climate values and how to build a more sustainable community, first I need to shut up, shut my mouth and start to listen, start to connect with the reality of my community.<\/p>\n\n<p>Yewande Omotoso (00:10:54)<\/p>\n\n<p>Thank you so much Amanda. I mean you\u2019re such an inspiration and you tell your story, and it gives me goosebumps. I mean you recount the scene with your parents in your bedroom, there\u2019s something really profound about that, because I think you understood intrinsically where you had to start. And we\u2019ve been having a conversation and that\u2019s what this podcast is about, the dichotomy between being an urban dweller, feeling isolated, feeling overwhelmed, maybe by one\u2019s condition, one\u2019s life, one\u2019s restrictions. And then on the other side building a community and being part of a community, and doing this work and taking these climate actions. And you\u2019ve told us the story that shows how you traversed that line. And so I think there\u2019s a way in which you\u2019re such an example and of course I\u2019m sure you know that, but one maybe can\u2019t hear that enough.<\/p>\n\n<p>Joycelyn London (00:11:50)<\/p>\n\n<p>And you\u2019re talking about favelas, what lessons do you learn from this urban community?<\/p>\n\n<p>Amanda Costa (00:11:56)<\/p>\n\n<p>My parents they worked so hard, so that I could go to the University, so that I could travel, that I could have the basic needs to invest in my education. So I kind of disconnect from the reality of my community. So I need to come back, so this symbol on my t-shirt \u201cSankofa\u201d&nbsp; (which) means to come back and learn with people who are our ancestors. So I start to stop talking and I start to listen, I start to talk with people in my neighbourhood. I start to understand that we are talking about the same thing but we are using other words, because I was not talking Portuguese with them, I was talking in technical ways, I was talking about what the European vision of a sustainable future means. And when I understood this I realised that I need to talk about the capitalist system, I need to listen first and I need to make connections to show the common problem that is climate change. And it\u2019s impossible to talk about climate change, to talk about environmental injustice without talking about race injustice, because in Brazil, the reality is these issues, they are connected. We are a country that faced slavery, exploitation and colonisation, so we need to understand this background to promote an inclusive view about these issues.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Joycelyn London (00:13:36)<\/p>\n\n<p>How does your work within urban communities, within informal communities, link to environmental action and how do you make that connection?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Amanda Costa (00:13:46)<\/p>\n\n<p>With Perifa Sustent\u00e1vel Institute I\u2019m really proud of my organisation because Perifa Sustent\u00e1vel was born in 2019, and at this time, in this period, I realised that I need to do something. I was part of Engagamundo but in the Brazilian reality, who are the people who can do volunteer work? Who are the people who have time, people who do not need to work to have their basic needs. It\u2019s not the reality of black people in Brazil. So it was in the same period that I figured out that I am black, and you could say, \u201chow didn\u2019t you know that you were black\u201d! And I was like, it\u2019s a shame, no, because my mother, she\u2019s white and my father, he is black and I didn\u2019t have&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>racial literacy when I was a kid. So it\u2019s kind of weird because I figured out myself as a climate activist before I figured out myself as a black girl.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>And I started to feel uncomfortable in the climate space, because I started to look at people and I was the only black girl in that space, and they were talking about black people, Indigenous people and how (the) climate crisis will impact impoverished communities, and I was like \u201cthis what people are talking about, my reality\u201d. And when I understood all of this I understood that I should create something (for) my people. So I decided to create a project and in the beginning Perifa Sustent\u00e1vel was a project to&nbsp; democratise the climate debate in vulnerable communities. I was doing a lot of actions in my neighbourhood, I was promoting virtual spaces to talk about environmentalism and blackness, because at this moment, in my reality in Brazil it was like, whoa, it\u2019s possible to relate climate and blackness?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>I was speaking with people who are in the decision making space, people who have money, people who can afford the change, and one of these connections told me, \u201cAmanda you should<\/p>\n\n<p>create an organisation\u201d. It was amazing because I could show young people how to do climate advocacy, how to learn more about the climate crisis.<\/p>\n\n<p>Yewande Omotoso (00:16:15)<\/p>\n\n<p>So much of your work is right in the work of making connections, this thing of these intersections, and it\u2019s really profound how you understood, just through through, particularly the conversation with your parents, that you can\u2019t talk environmental justice and not talk racial justice, not talk gender, not talk \u2026 these things are connected, that\u2019s what makes it real. You know it\u2019s not about, as you said, the rich white folk sitting at a desk somewhere. These are real&nbsp; issues and I\u2019m sort of quoting you because you talked about how you wrote an article called \u201cthe climate crisis is not a rich white man\u2019s thing\u201d so that\u2019s why I was referring to that, you talked about that in a piece you wrote. You know it\u2019s interesting for me that you crossed that line, you have other problems, but you\u2019re deeply embedded in community, in making community, in being community and doing that work.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>We asked a question to our listeners and we said, \u201chow many people feel as if they\u2019re part of a community?\u201d. There are a lot of studies at the moment about loneliness as an epidemic, particularly I would say, not only, but particularly amongst the youth, and it was interesting the survey came back with different results. It was actually almost like a third, a third, a third. But there were a third of people who felt that they didn\u2019t feel a sense of any community. So a third said yes we are, a third said no we\u2019re not and then a third was, well we feel neither here nor there.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>I just wanted to you to talk a little bit about the feeling of being part of a community, if this is something you have grappled with yourself, if it\u2019s something you have encountered in the people that work with you and in your movement, and how the work you do, which is very much grounded in grassroots, how it is a force for change. You know why this work is so powerful and why it\u2019s a force for change.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Amanda Costa (00:18:07)<\/p>\n\n<p>I think my generation is having a hard time to feel part of a community, because we are under the capitalist system, and globalization, and neoliberalism. And what does it mean in practical ways? It means that the neoliberal system said to us that \u201coh do you want to be successful in life? You need to have things, you need to buy, you need to have a huge house, you need to have an amazing car, you need to make a lot of trips, you need to be on the beach, you need to go to another country, you need to take photos and share on your Instagram\u201d. It\u2019s hard to feel part of a community because we are under this kind of system and people, they are not talking with others anymore.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>For me I think Engagamundo, the Brazilian NGO, was the first community that I could see myself, because, you have no idea, it was a lot of young people with a lot of energy saying we can make the change, we are part of the solution, it was like, yes we can! So I think it was being with them (which) gave me this power to build this same environment in my local reality. Because Engagamundo is all of Brazil, a lot of States, so my friends at Engagamundo they were virtual and I understood that this is the community that I want to be part of.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>So, I realise that I am black, I want to be more with black people. I see myself as an activist so I want to be with activists. For me I was creating the communities that I\u2019d like to be part of, I was intentionally searching (for) these communities, and asking to be part of, black people \u2013 people who have the same skin colour as me. We were slaves, now we are in vulnerable areas, we are in marginalised communities, we need to face a lot of problems to be on the same level as white people, so it\u2019s not your fault. But it can be a little bit vague to say, oh it\u2019s the system\u2019s fault. So I like to talk about solutions. How can we solve this problem? We need public policies especially for black people, especially for single mothers, especially for black kids. We need to work with politicians to solve this challenge but, another challenge, who are the politicians in Brazil? White rich men that do not advocate for black people.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Joycelyn London (00:21:11)<\/p>\n\n<p>Thank you Amanda, I mean you\u2019ve just described so many issues that of course are specific to Brazil but are replicated in so many places around the world. I\u2019d be really interested to know, because this episode is all about community and how community can actually support us with all of this pain that we\u2019re experiencing, how community can be a source of mutual support? What can we do to foster the sense of community outside of these systems of oppression in order to provide that support for ourselves, in order to provide that support for each other, for people who are feeling this isolation, or feeling or experiencing this discrimination? How is it that we can build community, build strong communities, build solidarity and resistance?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>Amanda Costa (00:21:54)<\/p>\n\n<p>In my opinion the solution is in the grassroots, is in the community. We cannot wait \u2013 \u201coh this politician will save my life, this white saviour\u201d, no, he will not come. So I think one way to build a strong community is we need to understand the local problems and we need to understand how we can solve these local problems at a local level.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n<p>I give you an example, here in my community Brasil\u00e2ndia we are facing a lot of floods. Many people, they lose everything because of the floods. And when I was a kid I faced floods so many times, my kitchen used to be under water because of the rains. No, it\u2019s not because of the rains \u2013 in Portuguese we say \u201cn\u00e3o \u00e9 culpa da chuva\u201d, no, it\u2019s not the rain\u2019s fault. It\u2019s not. 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